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Breeding Journal, Species: A. percula ("onyx") x ("picasso")
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Wednesday, July 14, 2010 1:24 AM
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Breeding Journal DataSheet This first post should be updated regularly to include new information as events take place or changes are made to your system General Species: Social Structure: Size of Individuals: Age of Individuals: Date added to Tank: Broodstock Tank Details Size of Tank: Substrate Details: Filtration Details: Water Changes: Water Temperature: Lighting: Lighting Cycle: Other Tank Inhabitants: Broodstock Feeding Details Food Types: Feeding Schedule: Spawning Details Date of First Spawn: Spawn Time of Day: Dates of Consecutive Spawns: Courtship Details: Egg Size: Egg Color: Egg Count: Hatch Details Hatch Date: 7/13/10 Hatch Time of Day: 10:00 p.m. # Days after Spawn: Larvae Description: Lots of them. They look like baby fish, except HUGE. Larval Tank Details Temperature: 80 Size of Larval Tank: 17 gals., blue (inside black) round tub Substrate Details: krylon paint Other Tank Decor: Filtration Details: Connected to large trash can and 20H sump for water volume. Water into trash can goes across bioballs. Lighting: Desk lamp, room light Lighting Cycle: 16 on Water Changes: Larval Feeding Details Food Types: The idea is to try to use Apocyclops to raise the fry. So far (day 8): Apocyclops, rotifers, Oyster Feast, BBS, powdered Hikari S Feeding Schedule: 4x/day Metamorphosis/Settlement Date of Settlement Start: Days after Hatch: Date of Settlement End: Description of Fry: Grow-Out Tank Details Temperature: Size of Grow-Out Tank: Substrate Details: Other Tank Decor: Filtration Details: Lighting: Lighting Cycle: Water Changes: Size at Transfer: Age at Transfer: Grow-Out Feeding Details Food Types: Feeding Schedule: Additional Information Miscellaneous Information: You will be required to provide photographic evidence in this thread of each event submitted for the MBI Program. If your thread does not contain these photos the MBI Committee will not be able to approve your reports.
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[align=center][u][b][size="3"]Breeding Journal DataSheet[/size][/b][/u] [color="red"]This first post should be updated regularly to include new information as events take place or changes are made to your system[/color][/align] [color="#000080"][size="3"][u][b]General [/b][/u][/size][/color] [b]Species:[/b] [b]Social Structure: [/b] [b]Size of Individuals: [/b] [b]Age of Individuals:[/b] [b]Date added to Tank:[/b] [color="#000080"][size="3"][u][b]Broodstock Tank Details [/b][/u][/size][/color] [b]Size of Tank:[/b] [b]Substrate Details:[/b] [b]Filtration Details:[/b] [b]Water Changes:[/b] [b]Water Temperature:[/b] [b]Lighting:[/b] [b]Lighting Cycle:[/b] [b]Other Tank Inhabitants:[/b] [color="#000080"][size="3"][u][b]Broodstock Feeding Details [/b][/u][/size][/color] [b]Food Types:[/b] [b]Feeding Schedule:[/b] [color="#000080"][size="3"][u][b]Spawning Details [/b][/u][/size][/color] [b]Date of First Spawn:[/b] [b]Spawn Time of Day:[/b] [b]Dates of Consecutive Spawns:[/b] [b]Courtship Details:[/b] [b]Egg Size:[/b] [b]Egg Color:[/b] [b]Egg Count: [/b] [color="#000080"][size="3"][u][b]Hatch Details [/b][/u][/size][/color] [b]Hatch Date:[/b] 7/13/10 [b]Hatch Time of Day:[/b] 10:00 p.m. [b]# Days after Spawn:[/b] [b]Larvae Description:[/b] Lots of them. They look like baby fish, except HUGE. :) [color="#000080"][size="3"][u][b]Larval Tank Details [/b][/u][/size][/color] [b]Temperature:[/b] 80 [b]Size of Larval Tank:[/b] 17 gals., blue (inside black) round tub [b]Substrate Details:[/b] krylon paint [b]Other Tank Decor:[/b] [b]Filtration Details:[/b] Connected to large trash can and 20H sump for water volume. Water into trash can goes across bioballs. [b]Lighting:[/b] Desk lamp, room light [b]Lighting Cycle:[/b] 16 on [b]Water Changes:[/b] [color="#000080"][size="3"][u][b]Larval Feeding Details [/b][/u][/size][/color] [b]Food Types:[/b] The idea is to try to use Apocyclops to raise the fry. So far (day 8): Apocyclops, rotifers, Oyster Feast, BBS, powdered Hikari S [b]Feeding Schedule:[/b] 4x/day [color="#000080"][size="3"][u][b]Metamorphosis/Settlement [/b][/u][/size][/color] [b]Date of Settlement Start:[/b] [b]Days after Hatch:[/b] [b]Date of Settlement End:[/b] [b]Description of Fry:[/b] [b][u] [color="#000080"][size="3"]Grow-Out Tank Details [/size][/color][/u][/b] [b]Temperature:[/b] [b]Size of Grow-Out Tank:[/b] [b]Substrate Details:[/b] [b]Other Tank Decor:[/b] [b]Filtration Details:[/b] [b]Lighting:[/b] [b]Lighting Cycle:[/b] [b]Water Changes:[/b] [b]Size at Transfer:[/b] [b]Age at Transfer:[/b] [color="#000080"][size="3"][u][b]Grow-Out Feeding Details [/b][/u][/size][/color] [b]Food Types:[/b] [b]Feeding Schedule:[/b] [color="#000080"][size="3"][u][b]Additional Information [/b][/u][/size][/color] [b]Miscellaneous Information:[/b] [color="red"][b]You will be required to provide photographic evidence in this thread of each event submitted for the MBI Program. If your thread does not contain these photos the MBI Committee will not be able to approve your reports.[/b][/color] |
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Re:A. percula ("onyx") x A. percula ("picasso") log
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Wednesday, July 14, 2010 1:30 AM
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Sorry. Can someone delete the other thread? The MASM site does NOT work well on the iPad. And by not well, I mean "not at all."
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Re:A. percula ("onyx") x A. percula ("picasso") log
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Wednesday, July 14, 2010 1:32 AM
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Andy... drop the ipad and get a nokia.... FYI this is the one that should be deleted the other one has the info... lol hah and in edit... I notice the neither have info.... ANDY!!! Wake up! doesnt that ipad have some crazy brain dump genious bar auto fill stretch and touch stand on your head to forum fill function?
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Andy... drop the ipad and get a nokia.... FYI this is the one that should be deleted the other one has the info... lol hah and in edit... I notice the neither have info.... ANDY!!! Wake up! doesnt that ipad have some crazy brain dump genious bar auto fill stretch and touch stand on your head to forum fill function?
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Wednesday, July 14, 2010 1:42 AM
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Yes. Yes it does. The MASM form fields won't let me enter text on the silly thing, though. Okay, here's the deal: I asked my buddy (Zooid) who does lots of clowns if he would try the funny little copepods with a batch to see how they'd do. He said that he didn't have room to do a batch now, but that he had a nest that should hatch tonight. I gathered supplies and headed over. He has a couple of clowns in his reef tank that lay on a flower pot right next to an anemone. So, he pulled it out, we got the battery-powered airstone running, and I took off home. The airpump lasted about thirty feet from his door (sigh). Fortunately, the roads were bad and I'm a sucky driver, so there were lots of waves on the way home. Long story short, looks like all or nearly all hatched tonight! That's a lot of clownfish! I'll certainly get some photos tomorrow. First impressions: Clownfish larvae are ENORMOUS.
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Yes. Yes it does. The MASM form fields won't let me enter text on the silly thing, though. Okay, here's the deal: I asked my buddy (Zooid) who does lots of clowns if he would try the funny little copepods with a batch to see how they'd do. He said that he didn't have room to do a batch now, but that he had a nest that should hatch tonight. I gathered supplies and headed over. He has a couple of clowns in his reef tank that lay on a flower pot right next to an anemone. So, he pulled it out, we got the battery-powered airstone running, and I took off home. The airpump lasted about thirty feet from his door (sigh). Fortunately, the roads were bad and I'm a sucky driver, so there were lots of waves on the way home. Long story short, looks like all or nearly all hatched tonight! That's a lot of clownfish! I'll certainly get some photos tomorrow. First impressions: Clownfish larvae are ENORMOUS.
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Re:A. percula ("onyx") x A. percula ("picasso") log
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Wednesday, July 14, 2010 8:56 AM
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Andy, your a programer (at least at heart) so you need to develop an Iphone/Ipad app for the MASM site and the MBI  You know I need it for my new Iphone. And, I know you have the time now
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Wednesday, July 14, 2010 10:59 AM
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Time? What is this thing you speak of: "Time"? I've never done clowns before, but these seem very dark for 1 day old larvae to my eyes. I mean, I can actually see them.  How do they survive in the big, bad ocean if things can see them? Things seemed to go fine overnight. I turned on lights for them a little earlier than the rest of the fishroom (so I could show them to the kid before she left for camp) and added lots of copepods to their water. There are still too many fish to count, so that's the first big hurdle.
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Time? What is this thing you speak of: "Time"? :) I've never done clowns before, but these seem very dark for 1 day old larvae to my eyes. I mean, I can actually see them. :) How do they survive in the big, bad ocean if things can see them? Things seemed to go fine overnight. I turned on lights for them a little earlier than the rest of the fishroom (so I could show them to the kid before she left for camp) and added lots of copepods to their water. There are still too many fish to count, so that's the first big hurdle.
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Wednesday, July 14, 2010 12:40 PM
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I think I'm seeing some that are making strikes! BTW, I also have some rots getting enriched, just in case. Question: If I'm seeing white bellies at this point, should I assume that's still remnants of the yolk sac, or does that mean that they're eating already? Most of the photos didn't turn out.  But here's one:
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I think I'm seeing some that are making strikes! BTW, I also have some rots getting enriched, just in case. Question: If I'm seeing white bellies at this point, should I assume that's still remnants of the yolk sac, or does that mean that they're eating already? Most of the photos didn't turn out. :( But here's one: [img]http://www.ummfish.com/percula_larvae_01_7-14-10.jpg[/img]
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Wednesday, July 14, 2010 2:10 PM
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Video: [video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOFKfpBlCDY[/video]
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Wednesday, July 14, 2010 4:45 PM
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Some more photos:
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Some more photos: [img]http://www.ummfish.com/clown_larvae_02_7-14-10.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.ummfish.com/clown_larvae_03_7-14-10.jpg[/img]
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Looks like you have lots of happy and healthy larvae. I've found that if you transport the eggs on the day they are expected to hatch, like you did, they will often hatch on the way home. I attribute this to being placed into a dark container for transport... simulating night to them. Several people that I've given tiles to in the past have had this happen so I warn them that they might get home to find a container full of larvae.
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Looks like you have lots of happy and healthy larvae. :) I've found that if you transport the eggs on the day they are expected to hatch, like you did, they will often hatch on the way home. I attribute this to being placed into a dark container for transport... simulating night to them. Several people that I've given tiles to in the past have had this happen so I warn them that they might get home to find a container full of larvae.
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Wednesday, July 14, 2010 5:12 PM
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Hmm. Yeah, I could see that being a problem if one were to put a top on the transport container.  Maybe I should try that....
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[quote=Umm_fish?] Hmm. Yeah, I could see that being a problem if one were to put a top on the transport container. -rolleyes Maybe I should try that.... lmao [/quote] I don't really see it as a problem, just something to be aware of. :)
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Well, you might see it as a problem if you saw all the water in my car. -------------------------------- A large die-off this afternoon. I'm not sure what's up with that--whether it's residual transfer stress or something to do with what I'm doing--but there are still lots and lots. While siphoning, I accidentally sucked up the little dude above. So, that's in a better place for photos and with a different lens.
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Well, you might see it as a problem if you saw all the water in my car. :) -------------------------------- A large die-off this afternoon. I'm not sure what's up with that--whether it's residual transfer stress or something to do with what I'm doing--but there are still lots and lots. While siphoning, I accidentally sucked up the little dude above. So, that's in a better place for photos and with a different lens. [img]http://www.ummfish.com/clown_larvae_04_7-14-10.jpg[/img]
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Wednesday, July 14, 2010 11:02 PM
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Oops, I didn't realize that you didn't cover the container... that would be a bit messy. Great pic!
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Oops, I didn't realize that you didn't cover the container... that would be a bit messy. Great pic!
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Saturday, July 17, 2010 10:16 PM
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Day 4:
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Day 4: [img]http://www.ummfish.com/clown_larvae_01_7-18-10.jpg[/img]
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Awww... what big eyes you have!
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Looks like a baby pike with that color!
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Looks like a baby pike with that color!
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Nice pics!
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Thanks, y'all! Day 5:
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Thanks, y'all! Day 5: [img]http://www.ummfish.com/clown_larvae_03_7-18-10.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.ummfish.com/clown_larvae_04_7-18-10.jpg[/img]
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Personally, I think BBS are about the grossest thing ever. Fortunately (or not, depending on how you view it), the clown larvae seem to disagree. It's probably a little late to be introducing BBS, but I completely spaced out how short the rot period is with these. The larvae gave me a couple of dirty looks when I first added the BBS, but soon gave in to the dark side and started eating. I am, of course, still adding rots and copepods as well.
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Personally, I think BBS are about the grossest thing ever. Fortunately (or not, depending on how you view it), the clown larvae seem to disagree. It's probably a little late to be introducing BBS, but I completely spaced out how short the rot period is with these. The larvae gave me a couple of dirty looks when I first added the BBS, but soon gave in to the dark side and started eating. I am, of course, still adding rots and copepods as well. [img]http://www.ummfish.com/clown_larvae_01_7-19-10.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.ummfish.com/clown_larvae_04_7-19-10.jpg[/img]
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